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Coordinators | Nice Reaction to a theist pronouncement! / Frish on 12 Aug 2007
http://news.mywebpal.com/news_tool_v2.cfm?show=localnews&pnpID=730&NewsID=829112&CategoryID=16717&on=1 08/11/07 Dear editor: Mary Sauceman said (in her article “America’s relationship with alcohol, drugs” on Aug. 1): “You might say that these were not men of faith, yet it has been said there has never been a declared atheist in a foxhole during the heat of battle. I do not believe there have been any aboard a spaceship as it speeds into the unknown, behind a flame of fire that could engulf them in an instant, that would not want the help of God.” There have been plenty of declared atheists in foxholes during the heat of battle, including one in the recent news, Pat Tillman. Others can be found in the membership of the Military Association of Atheists and Freethinkers. A 2004 report reveals that one out of 5 U.S. military members are atheists. Why are you calling them all liars? If you were in a foxhole, would you consider calling out to characters you consider fictional? Would you ask for Harry Potter’s help? I doubt it. Your last sentence, about wanting the help of God, also makes no sense. What does it mean to want Harry Potter’s help? If I have trouble, am I going to all of a sudden think Harry Potter might be real? Why would it be any different for an atheist, who thinks God is a fictional character? It isn’t any different. To say there are no atheists in foxholes is to call military atheists either cowards or liars, an underserved and unacceptable slur. Ben Dreidel, Member, Military Association of Atheists & Freethinkers, Clifton Park, N.Y. | New here? Create an account. Search civilbrights.netQuotesOur civil rights have no dependence upon our religious opinions, any more than our opinions in physics or geometry. —Thomas Jefferson No longer are we satisfied with the fiction of things. We want them in their full reality. —Mikhail Bakunin I slept with faith and found a corpse in my arms on awakening; I drank and danced all night with doubt and found her a virgin in the morning. —Aleister Crowley The Christian resolution to find the world ugly and bad has made the world ugly and bad. —Friedrich Nietzsche |