- Location: New Hampshire (Map)
- E-mail: c...@hotmail.com
- Founded: 1 Feb 2008
New Hampshire Brights
Coordinators | First one here? / jetsetdork on 23 Feb 2008
Hello NH Brights! I hope that I'm not writing this just to myself and that soon there will be plenty of New Hampshire-ite Brights on this site. :) If anyone has any advice or experience with 'coming out' to staunch Xian friends/family please get in touch with me. :) But enough about me... what about us? People have said that organizing atheists (and other people that can qualify as Brights) is like herding cats, but I feel that the term Bright coupled with the recent outburst in pro-atheist thought in popular culture might lead to an Pride movement. Of course, websites like civilbrights is a testament to that, so what I'm saying is nothing new. Therefore, returning to the original question, what do we want this group to be and what (if anything) should we do? Also, what do you think of the term "Bright"? It's still fairly new to me so I'm still working out my opinions on it, but I'm wondering if anyone out there has mulled it over and come to any conclusions. For example, if you call yourself a Bright, what (if anything) did you call yourself before? How did you make the switch or decide to layer Bright onto your self? These are a good handful of questions so I'll stop here, but I hope this is just the beginning of a conversation and perhaps a community. Cheers, * xian, it's like x-mas. I use it a lot. CommentsPedro on 3 May 2008 First off, hello to Erin, and now you know there are at least TWO a-theists in New Hampshire. I actually came to my dis-belief while studying in the seminary to become a catholic priest many years ago. I guess it never occurred to me not to be open about it with friends and family, as I am a pretty open person, (a trait that has not always served me well, I will admit). Overall my non-belief in the supernatural hasn't caused me a lot of turmoil from others. But it’s also not something that I have felt any need to put front and center in my life. Yes, I am an atheist, but I am also (randomly chosen) a musician, a Daddy, a birdwatcher, a reader, a mediator, 5 feet 7, a hippie (yes, still in mind at least), and many more things. I don’t lead with any of that when I meet people, I just am me, and as those things come forward, people get to know me, hopefully, in my totality. I think the most frequent reaction I have gotten over the years from people when they learn that I do not believe in a god runs along the lines of, “So what do you think happens after you die, nothing?” They seem to have a sort of concern for me which sometimes yields to a somewhat incredulous admiration that someone could not believe in an afterlife and still not fear death. My Mom’s reaction when I first left the seminary and told her it was because I didn’t believe in a god was pretty funny. “Well, you’re still going to go to church on Sunday, I hope!” Totally didn’t get it. She also had the hardest time grasping how anyone could eschew religion and still be a moral person. She once said to me, “Well, I guess life is pretty easy for you now, you can just do whatever you want, with no rules to follow.” I replied that in fact, being a moral person, which was still my goal, now seemed more difficult, in the sense that it put more of a burden on me to carefully search my conscience to decide what was moral and right, absent a religion telling me what to do or not do. In ways, it made me more fastidious about my actions, as, for example, I strongly believed I should not fight in the Viet Nam war, something which my former catholic religion would have readily allowed, and I consequently filed with my draft board as a conscientious objector (ironically, in the truest sense of the phrase). I am greatly encouraged by what seems to be a fairly new coming-out movement of non-believers, including the writings of Dawkins, Hitchens, et al, and the delightful attempts of the Brights to establish some verbal constructs by which people without supernatural and mystical worldviews (did I get that right?) can describe themselves more positively. It is all a bit awkward, but delightful nonetheless. I also look forward to the possibility that people with a naturalistic worldview might somehow come together to collaborate on action projects that might make the world a better place, and, to that end, I offer myself to the service of a New Hampshire Brights group. Erin, your question, “What, if anything, should we do?” is a good one (reminiscent of Tolstoy’s, “What then must we do?”). Identifying ourselves is a start, I should think. Encouraging others of like mind seems worthwhile, too. And I would love it if a group of like-minded non-believers could some day participate in charitable works, not for the love of a supernatural entity, but for the love of our fellow humans, while gently letting the world know that naturalistic morality does exist, and has never caused a war, inquisition, stoning, or act of terrorism. I look forward to hearing from others. Rorschach on 20 Jun 2008 Three atheists in NH! I love the idea of an atheist/bright/skeptic/humanist group in NH. I wish I could openly support such a group, but I'm currently a member of a highly controlling religious group. If I were open about my lack of belief, I'd be shunned. Maybe someday I'll find my way out. Part of the difficulty is that there is no secular alternative to fill the social role that religious groups provide. I would, however, like to meet like-minded people. I'm not crazy about the label "bright". "Naturalist" is a pretty good term. Seems almost impossible to sum up one's thoughts and attitudes in a single word or phrase, if you don't subscribe to an authoritarian belief system. bluebright on 1 Jul 2008 Hey everyone, NH atheist #4 has entered the room. I am very excited to see three insightful responses from NH atheists, since, I too thought I was the only one. I actually just moved here from Maine but just started looking into possibly joining an atheist organization if one existed. The Brights appeals to me because the message is simple and I think organizing people with a naturalist world view is important, especially in the US since religion is attempting to have(one could argue as had)a prominent and powerful role in secular life. Just a brief bit about myself then. I was raised Catholic, went to catechism, etc but my parents never really talked about religion at home. My parents actually see religion has something very personal but felt it was their duty to ship my bro and I off to Sunday school every week. In high school my best friend and I were Bible thumpers. I still considered myself Catholic and went to Church often up until about Sophomore year of College. I attended a Catholic College and ironically that's where I began to doubt my faith. Philosophy is what did it for me intellectually, especially the work of David Hume. It was about a years process of thinking and deciding that religion does not have the answers, and only science and philosophy can really tell us anything about the world. Anyway, that when on a bit long but once again it is nice to find people in NH that are interested in the Brights movement. Hopefully, we can start something here! Hope to hear from more people! | New here? Create an account. Search civilbrights.netQuotesOur civil rights have no dependence upon our religious opinions, any more than our opinions in physics or geometry. —Thomas Jefferson No longer are we satisfied with the fiction of things. We want them in their full reality. —Mikhail Bakunin I slept with faith and found a corpse in my arms on awakening; I drank and danced all night with doubt and found her a virgin in the morning. —Aleister Crowley The Christian resolution to find the world ugly and bad has made the world ugly and bad. —Friedrich Nietzsche |